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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2015 8:42:12 GMT -5
Brand New Paint Job...notice the numbers!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2015 14:26:21 GMT -5
Michael,
My grandpa used to send his Jehovah Witness friends to my house when I was "living in sin" to tell me the error of my ways. After the first couple of times, I just didn't bother to answer the door. They never changed my mind about anything...I just tuned them out as background noise.
Fast forward in time, past the 7 years I lived in sin and to being involved with my hubby, I knew that living together wasn't what I wanted. Hubby was the one who wanted the minister and the service but what I knew was that I didn't want to follow down the path of we'll see where it goes again. I'd already walked that path.
My living in sin guy was and is a good guy. He treated me well. We grew up together. We were both faithful people. We were a "couple". But deep down, there was always the whole, this is now thing.
It took me a long time to understand that while I had tuned out the message of my grandpa's churchmates, I come from generations of people who believed in "forever". Forever is really about personal choice and personal commitment.
What I somehow took with me, without realizing it is that the message isn't truly about living in sin but rather about not embracing the possibility of forever. That love is so very valuable, it's not to be wasted or squandered.
Love is everything. Deep, abiding, not just of the moment love.
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Post by jeff2k6 on Apr 8, 2015 22:55:37 GMT -5
Nash: Are you watching 'The Bible' series or the newly finished series 'The Bible:A.D'? <-- both are excellent! I've seen all 'The Bible' series and the A.D series, itself just premiered this past weekend.. its really interesting! =] and if that happens at the concert.. I'd scream like a little girl over a Spider! Haha Jeffery...yes I am watching the Bible...the third episode last night...amazingly scary and engaging. I need to watch it all the way through but I keep stoping...backing up...asking questions etc. It takes me around 3 hours for a 2 hour episode...I am not the sharpest sword in the sheath when it comes to this. Jeff I have to blame Jo on my interest of this...she gave me a simple picture of it...something that I could understand. But now all these questions I am seeking answers for...so many questions that man can't answer...but I know them myself...already. Are we not all profits of God if we are in tune with him...I call God him only because folks told me too...what is he really? Don't we all know right from wrong in our heart....don't we all seek to ease the pain of our brethren...don't we? Haven't we learned through all time that hate and violence only leads to more...it slays our hearts. Oh before I go on...I was saved in I think it was 1982 and Baptized not long after...became a Bible thumper. I ran with the Navy Jesus freaks for awhile...church stuff 7 days a week man...it was fun...I was banished from them. I flew my Okie gal to Fla and we lived in sin...they gave me a choice and I chose my wife...and we lived happily. Here is my problem...I was following my heart...maybe Gods word...but man had other ideas on their vision of me. Should I put my thoughts away and listen to other folks tell me how to live when it is obvious that they are miserable? I feel God ...the divine being in my heart...if I never step inside a church again in my life...I will be fine with that. Just thought that I would share that with you...all...Jeff... you and Jo are now are the reason for this deep thinkin! I think I will go out and enjoy this thing called life...a bit later... Big bro Nash, you really got me thinking here haha I feel like your questions are legitimate ones and I'm not sure I can answer them, but I'll try. (as I have some the same ones also) but 1st, I'll talk about faith/ my opinion of what I've come to find or I think it is anyway * is that much of what living by God's word really means is to live by the word 'faith' <-- that means to me, not necessarily understanding everything, having questions, ect., but also an acceptance of the uncertainty that comes from life within our perspective anyway* and trusting God to lead us through it. He has a perspective that we cannot even begin to fathom, so faith is believing that regardless of circumstance.. if he leads us in, he will lead us out <-- not on our time however, but in his (If that makes sense) It sounds like.. you were put into some tough spots, man! Ones that you didn't deserve. So many believers nowadays, it makes me sad. They spend so much time using faith/ God's word(s) as the basis for their judgement of others, rather than the acceptance and love of one another.. regardless of differences. Jesus' was about treating one another as they deserved always, not as we perceive them to be.. every single person has made mistakes, but Jesus' is about looking beyond what was in front of him and what could be. He sees potential, not fault. You are a great man, Nash.. it's a shame they didn't give you a chance. You made the right decision, Nash. Also, You don't need a church to be a believer, just a belief in Jesus and as far as I can tell.. you have that. They are the ones with the problem, not you.. one day, if you decide to step in a church again, great, but even if you don't.. God is and will continue to be present in your life! * Remember even Jesus held sermons on Mountains, in villages, ect. It's not about the setting, it's about the feeling and what you do with it. I hope my rambling helps, Nash!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2015 9:10:50 GMT -5
Jeff,
You said that so very, very well. I agree completely.
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Post by jeff2k6 on Apr 9, 2015 9:57:07 GMT -5
Jeff, You said that so very, very well. I agree completely. Thank you, I was hoping I was making sense throughout and not rambling. Trying to avoid thoughts spewing out like sheep that tend to come out in droves as you're trying to sleep <-- impossible to count haha
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2015 10:12:14 GMT -5
ROTFLOL ,,,just yesterday I was reading where some sheep farmers are using drones to herd their flocks now. I just know I'm gonna have a visual of drones herding sheep in my head now. : )
You are so much better than I am with herding your thoughts Jeff. Mine are always all over the place...running here and there. : )
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2015 10:29:32 GMT -5
Wow ...this thread is developing into something kinda divine...it certainly is making me look closer at things.
The Bible was a great series...really great...and I am so looking forward to the AD series.
It is making things so much clearer...and of coarse more questions....more...more...more.
I know now that there are no questions really...just go with it...so simple.
Why as humans do we have to question everything...?
My relief at work said his card wasn't working in the slider...I asked to try it.
He asked me...what don't you believe me? I said no I just don't trust...things.
I tried it myself...and it didn't work...I felt bad for not trusting his word.
I blew on the card with one nostril and wiped it with a cloth and it worked!
I certainly hope our lord accepts happiness in the kingdom.
When I ever get to the glory land I am running up to everyone that I knew of Earth...
I will just tickle everyone...isn't laughter a gift of the Lord?
I suppose that if our attitude is some sort of reflection of the Lord....
Should not happiness be on the same thrown as Love and Kindness?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2015 10:39:40 GMT -5
Now that I watched the series I suppose I am now an expert...I believe that we are all experts on the Bible.
We just simply don't know it.
Yesterday my wife was picking wild onions...love then with greens...scrumptious!
She was not finding many saying things like ...well maybe next year.
I felt this smile come over me and spoke to her like the years of yore folk...
Go forth woman...and pick the multitudes of onions...pointing to the burn area.
I literally heard her shriek...like she saw a spider...I ran to her.
There must be literally millions of wild green onions on acres of woods and grass.
I ...now this is the truth...looked up into the sky and said ...thanks man!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2015 10:54:37 GMT -5
Michael, My grandpa used to send his Jehovah Witness friends to my house when I was "living in sin" to tell me the error of my ways. After the first couple of times, I just didn't bother to answer the door. They never changed my mind about anything...I just tuned them out as background noise. Fast forward in time, past the 7 years I lived in sin and to being involved with my hubby, I knew that living together wasn't what I wanted. Hubby was the one who wanted the minister and the service but what I knew was that I didn't want to follow down the path of we'll see where it goes again. I'd already walked that path. My living in sin guy was and is a good guy. He treated me well. We grew up together. We were both faithful people. We were a "couple". But deep down, there was always the whole, this is now thing. It took me a long time to understand that while I had tuned out the message of my grandpa's churchmates, I come from generations of people who believed in "forever". Forever is really about personal choice and personal commitment. What I somehow took with me, without realizing it is that the message isn't truly about living in sin but rather about not embracing the possibility of forever. That love is so very valuable, it's not to be wasted or squandered. Love is everything. Deep, abiding, not just of the moment love. Love is the only thing that time or distance cannot hide. Awesome Jo...you do know that I love you and all the souls on this forum...I see the smile! If doctors could bottle this it would put out the depression pill industry out of business. A couple of questions...maybe we should give land to the Israelites...Canada has a lot of room. Are we to watch WW3 break out with out doing something...isn't good the will of God? I believe the Jews got the short end of the stick when it came to Wars...poor people. Love is poured out like old dishwater down the drain...towards the sewer. Though in time the water will be renewed to it's pure pristine state... we have all drank the same water...over and over again...all live forms since the beginning... We have breathed the same air as Abraham and Noah on the same Earth...on this same moment. The air I breath and the water I drink and the light in the sky are the same essentials...for mankind...forever!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2015 10:59:49 GMT -5
Yesterday I got a call from hubby saying that Lucy (the car we've had since 2011) had lost her transmission and he was waiting on a tow truck. We did the shuffle of having it towed, getting him home.
As we were eating supper, he was telling me that he'd been on the feeder/access road all the way home yesterday...which he never is, he always shoots down the expressway. Yesterday though, there was some traffic jam on the main lanes so he decided to take the feeder home instead. It was on the access road he broke down. He was in the far right lane, which was also very lucky. Lucy died in front of a big car dealership and a group of salesmen saw him and came right over and helped push him out of traffic. The feeder road is 6 lanes and it was rush hour so it was packed as it always is.
We were both saying, God was looking out for us today. Yes, our car is in the shop and our transmission is toast but he wasn't on the expressway...which is so dangerous when your car dies. He had people who helped him voluntarily, out of kindness and without reward. The weather was good. It was still light out. AAA had a tow truck there pretty fast. The transmission itself...we just got a letter about it a couple of weeks ago where the factory had extended the warranty on it because there was a factory recall. It should be covered.
All these good things that lined up so that having a major breakdown was only inconvenient and really reminded us how nice people are. How very lucky we are. How God brought hubby home safe.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2015 11:04:08 GMT -5
Michael,
I do know that....I do too. : )
I'll be back to talk about WWIII. Need to go hunt up my asthma inhaler. Pollen count is very high. There's a yellow glaze of pollen on everything now.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2015 11:08:40 GMT -5
We are our brothers keeper...that just popped in my head.
Wouldn't it be cool if everyone worried about others instead of themselves?
To be a truly giving person to those in need...give of yourself rings a bell.
I don't know why...
It seems as if you help someone with something...they feel indebted to you.
Even though you want nothing in return...their is a weight on the receivers heart.
This weight becomes like a magnet and the force pushes them away from each other.
Nothing is worse than the feeling of owing someone something for forever.
Lost too many friends that way...loaning money etc...being owed.
Now I just say sorry my friend...I love you too much...to give a friend away.
But if I give a gift from my heart...it is simply meant to be a blessing.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2015 11:11:48 GMT -5
Michael, I do know that....I do too. : ) I'll be back to talk about WWIII. Need to go hunt up my asthma inhaler. Pollen count is very high. There's a yellow glaze of pollen on everything now. It really is Jo...maybe wear a bandanna when you are outside...we need that rain that has been forecast by man...it is so simple to just look up. We as humans do not have a very good track record for predicting anything...be safe out there!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2015 11:22:31 GMT -5
Yesterday I got a call from hubby saying that Lucy (the car we've had since 2011) had lost her transmission and he was waiting on a tow truck. We did the shuffle of having it towed, getting him home. As we were eating supper, he was telling me that he'd been on the feeder/access road all the way home yesterday...which he never is, he always shoots down the expressway. Yesterday though, there was some traffic jam on the main lanes so he decided to take the feeder home instead. It was on the access road he broke down. He was in the far right lane, which was also very lucky. Lucy died in front of a big car dealership and a group of salesmen saw him and came right over and helped push him out of traffic. The feeder road is 6 lanes and it was rush hour so it was packed as it always is. We were both saying, God was looking out for us today. Yes, our car is in the shop and our transmission is toast but he wasn't on the expressway...which is so dangerous when your car dies. He had people who helped him voluntarily, out of kindness and without reward. The weather was good. It was still light out. AAA had a tow truck there pretty fast. The transmission itself...we just got a letter about it a couple of weeks ago where the factory had extended the warranty on it because there was a factory recall. It should be covered. All these good things that lined up so that having a major breakdown was only inconvenient and really reminded us how nice people are. How very lucky we are. How God brought hubby home safe. I would hate to break down in the middle lane...thank God ...he was on the feeder...did he notice the car acting up? Was he going to stop somewhere...that is really a lucky break...could you imagine the log jam a stalled car would create? Things are way to complicated anymore Jo...we are at the mercy of man...and you know how that goes. Now...if your husbands car stalled it would create a cascade effect...large as it is...would be forgotten tomorrow. Now multiply that incident times the many other close calls across the world at this very moment...impossible to fathom. Maybe a factory recall was a blessing that someone bestowed on you...probably an honest person on an assembly line somewhere.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2015 11:40:13 GMT -5
Just an update on my brothers family...
The dynamics of their family has changed drastically.
The oldest son has quit his job and moved in with his mother...and now he has moved in his friend.
The next son has became defensive and uses his children as leverage for what he wants.
The insurance policy should be here tomorrow or the next day...they have plans.
I have told Pat not to be influenced by people...put it in the bank and forget about it.
She should apply for benefits that the government gives to people like a disabled widow.
She wants nothing of that...been through enough already...she just wants to live.
Next Tuesday they plan on having a 3 month party and bonfire for my brothers passing.
They can start the bonfire with a hundred dollar bill...for all I care.
The thought of money is beginning it's destruction of their souls...
I will still believe that their intentions are good.
Blessed is the eldest son who wishes to build a home for his mother.
Blessed is the next son who keeps his sons near to their grandmother for wisdom.
Blessed are the grandsons who will observe the goodness and practice it through their lives.
Hey folks ...sorry for going off the deep side of the cranium...that is just me though.
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