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Post by kora on Apr 11, 2013 16:12:16 GMT -5
Nash - I did watch the ACM's and George did ok, but I've heard him sound better. The sound system was screwed up during his solo and he couldn't hear when to start singing...LOL...and he had two concerts the night before and they don't usually end until around 11:30. So, to me, he looked tired but, I'm sure, wanted to do the tribute to Dick Clark. Was it Garth you were referring to who looked close to tears? I was out of the room a couple of times and missed Taylor talking about her ex. What did she say? With her high profile, they all just wait to throw in a dig. That's what you have to put up with when you're a celebrity. About her being country, you know that I think she is not country, but there's so much non-country on country radio now that I don't know why they single her out. I hardly listen to country radio anymore. If I want country, I want country. If I want pop, I want pop, and so on. The lines are blurring now between genres. Hope your "wounds" heal soon so you can come back and talk about Taylor...LOL!... or anything else.
I watched the ACM's pretty closely and they didn't mention Taylor in any stage presentations ...no word at all. All the EOTY nominees got to perform their hit singles...Tay got to perform with Tim and Keith...so that is good enough. The vibe of hate throughout the forums would make me want to pack it up...if she does stick around that will prove her tenacity. Actually a lot of her music on RED is pretty country sounding. She does a lot of stuff acoustically when performed live! I ran across a guy I used to drink with when in the Navy stationed in Jacksonville Fla...I think Jo knows about Mayport. Anyway Jimmie Van Zant would come in the bar"Kentucky Wonder" and we would race chugging beers. I accused him of riding the coat tails of his cousins...we would get drunk and arm wrestle and tussle around all the time...all in good fun. I just found out that he is still in the game and e-mailed him calling him an old cut off Zant...lol he still remembers me. Here is his new video...I asked him why he got so ugly and I got so purty...it must be the music that we listen to...I didn't mention Taylor...he would probably say something bad...then I'd have to go down there again...maybe I should! lolwww.youtube.com/watch?v=lOsqpG5QswQ&feature=player_detailpageNash - George said he's not doing scheduled touring after 2014 but will do an occasional appearance, so I don't think the Dick Clark tribute will be his last live tv. His concerts always end with "The Cowboy Rides Away," and I think he sang it at the AMCs for Dick Clark. The last two lines of the song are "Oh the last goodbye's the hardest one to say. This is where the cowboy rides away." You didn't answer my question about the one nearing tears, so I assume it was Garth you were referring to. Taylor was up for EOY and another one, wasn't she? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2013 10:32:48 GMT -5
I didn't know that George ended every show with "The Cowboy Rides Away"...good to know. My wife was the one who said that George was near tears. I believe that George is more sincere than Garth when it comes to crying. I do know that on every Award show...in every genre the nominees for the big award at the end of the shows get a slot where they perform. They usually showcase a new just released tune...or do the most popular number that they put out that year. It is all up to the nominee...this year was the first year that all the nominees didn't perform. Once and awhile a nominee can't make it and they fill the slot with the next in line...so it goes. Miranda did her crazy woman song...Luke did his beach party tune...Blake did his drinking number...Aldean did the most stupid release that I have ever heard but can't forget... Taylor had her number "All Too Well" lined up and ready to go. The folks at the ACM's said they ran out of time...really? The last 10 minutes were dedicated to Stevie Wonder??? I wonder why...did Stevie even know where he was...I surly didn't .
I figured that Blake would have won the EOTY because he is so well known across the board...they I figured Taylor could win because of her voting fan base...since this is a fan voted award.
Then I found out that only 25%of the fan votes and the other 75% if industry voted. So in trying to recreate the Kenny Chesney years of the beach party...Luke won.
A lot of complaints came down right away...the ACM said that Taylor had her moment with the highway song of Tim's...I mean...that was Tim's song...Keith and Taylor were only backups. Now I am starting to sound like a Carrie fan...remember at the Grammies when they took a shot of Taylor sitting down when Carrie won? A split second later Taylor was up and screaming for Carrie. That is all you hear now about the Country slot at the Grammies...but everyone else knows...I just won't go there.
Taylor was also nominated for album of the year...one that she Wrote on every song and even produced or co-produced...and sold more than any country album in one week. Eric Church won this one...the cat thinks he is God or something pretty close. Maybe he is but Carrie should have won this one since it remained at the top the entire year vs the others.
Another thing I know is that there were more viewers watching this year than any in the past. A lot of them were probably up past their bedtime...that's the point here. They most likely wont be there next year...a lot of them were on the edge of coming on over (Like Shania used to say)...to give new life blood to country music. Not many younger fans like yourself Kora are into country music...they like metal or rock. In my opinion by kicking out artists like Taylor out of country they are also kicking out potential great young artists. Only Hunter Hayes is a country artist with an ability to speak to the youth...they gave him 3 slots on the show. I hope that some more traditional artists get the support needed to support country music...but the resounding consensus is that the industry doesn't control the industry...the fans do...just like government...they don't control the country...the people do. It is up to us to take country music where we want it to be...not some suit that slams the door on folks who have a desire to like country music...maybe even love it.
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Post by kora on Apr 12, 2013 17:31:50 GMT -5
nash - Yes, this has been an emotional time for George. His concerts have all sold out and the crowds have been pouring out their love for him. For some, it's their first time and they just want to see him perform before he stops touring. He's going all out on this tour, and it's the best George Strait that you will see. I saw gals with hankies during my last two concerts and George's eyes were misty at times, especially during certain songs. He will miss all of this.
OK, no more George here. This is Taylor's turf. LOL! I was surprised that she didn't win an ACM award. I wonder if the Luke Bryants (sp) and The Band Perrys are starting to take over. I hope not. I'm not a fan of either.
About Stevie Wonder, I just don't get it. Sorry, but I wondered why they had him take up so much time at the end. It's supposed to be a country award's show.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2013 10:43:13 GMT -5
Thanks Kora...you are so kind. I have meant to get back to you a long time ago...better late than never. I was thinking about that royal baby...I think they might name him George. Does this mean there is a new King George on the way?
Anyways I am getting ready for the RED tour on August 7th!!! I bought the VIP ultimate package and a pit pass. I am selling them both for face value and another floor ticket...on the aisle! This will work better for me. Basically the ticket is free and I wont be jammed into the pit...have you seen the new RED video? Who would have ever thought that she would become such a huge star? I have noticed a lot of folks that don't care for her music have learned to just let it go...save one. Gotta run!!!
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Post by kora on Jul 25, 2013 14:19:51 GMT -5
Thanks Kora...you are so kind. I have meant to get back to you a long time ago...better late than never. I was thinking about that royal baby...I think they might name him George. Does this mean there is a new King George on the way? Anyways I am getting ready for the RED tour on August 7th!!! I bought the VIP ultimate package and a pit pass. I am selling them both for face value and another floor ticket...on the aisle! This will work better for me. Basically the ticket is free and I wont be jammed into the pit...have you seen the new RED video? Who would have ever thought that she would become such a huge star? I have noticed a lot of folks that don't care for her music have learned to just let it go...save one. Gotta run!!! nashviller - it's nice to have you back. Are you back? LOL! We can't get enough of the royals. LOL! I think the baby's name is significant because of the Queen's father, George VI. The baby is third in line behind William and Charles, so some day could be King George. Wow! You are really into the RED tour. Hope you enjoy the concert and know you will. I hadn't heard the video but just listened to it. You know my feelings about Taylor. I think she's cute, knows what she's doing and how to make her fans happy, and this turns into success, lots of it and lots of fans. She is extremely popular and making lots of money. |
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Post by kora on Jul 25, 2013 14:20:46 GMT -5
Oh Gosh I was just voting for the ACM awards...and they already past! Sorry about that....what happened to this year? Where did everybody go??? All I know is that you have always been with me even if I wasn't here...or there...or anywhere! nashviller - You are so funny! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2013 10:30:35 GMT -5
4 sold out shows at the Staples Center in L.A....tying the record of the most sold out shows. The best part is when it is just her and her guitar...this person can play lotsa instruments!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2013 9:26:07 GMT -5
I Have Seen the Next Springsteen and Her Name is Taylor Swift NEW YORK (The Street) — After chatting with The Street’s Carlton Wilkinson about the idea of this article, I thought long and hard about how to proceed. Carlton knows a thing or two about music. He has a Ph.D. in it. But, before he has even stated his case and subsequently had the chance to defend himself, I charge Carlton with doing something many music lovers — casual and serious — do: Misunderstanding, shortchanging and discounting the power, the glory, the magic and the ministry of Taylor Swift. On Tuesday night at Staples Center in Los Angeles, Swift put on the 16th or 17th or maybe 20th best rock-n-roll show I have ever seen. Yes, rock-n-roll and, yes, the 16th, 17th or 20th best I’ve ever seen. That’s because I’m having difficulty determining how many Bruce Springsteen and The E Street Band shows I have been to. It’s between 15 and 20. And, without question, every single one of them did more for me than a Taylor Swift concert ever could. But, that’s me, a 38-year old guy from a provincial small city in Western New York who, as a teenager, used to drink beer under a viaduct on Hyde Park Boulevard in mid-December while pumping my fist to Springsteen’s “No Surrender.” It’s all about context. If you suspend personal circumstances, I’m not sure how you can watch Swift perform and not walk away claiming you have seen the modern-day iteration of Springsteen, the performer, the show(wo)man, the songwriter. Consider this clip of Swift introducing and belting out her classic hit, “Mean,” from Monday’s set at Staples: That has Springsteen, particularly a younger, more wordy Springsteen, written all over it. And I mean this as the highest form of compliment to both Springsteen and Swift. Swift isn’t trying to be anything, but herself. That’s where she’s most like Bruce. In her ability to be authentic and original and, through what is clearly a very personal and mentally arduous process, connect with an audience of her peers. You cannot simply mimic a great who came before you and strut the fine balance of stage presence, sincerity and spectacle Swift brings night after night after night. There’s a reason why music critics and serious popular culture doesn’t mention Swift’s name alongside Springsteen’s (and will likely chide me for doing so). Actually several reasons. First, a reason or two I can get with. I didn’t realize Swift was so “commercial.” She’s selling everything from Diet Coke to Keds to perfume at her shows. Legend has it that Bruce turned down millions from Chevy for the rights to “Born in the USA.” At the same time, the spectacle of Swift’s show (the costumes, the dancing, the pomp and circumstance) undermines her musical talents. If she stripped everything down to bare bones — using the nondescript black and drab set The E Street Band uses — Swift would instantly trigger comparisons to Bruce’s hard-driving, no-nonsense, four-hour rock shows. She could and, I believe, eventually will dedicate herself to the sweaty marathon sessions The Boss has become known for. She’ll drop much of the pizazz and bring the power. The same elements that make Bruce’s show tick provide what will be the lasting foundation for aTaylor Swift performance — “part circus, dance party, political rally (maybe not so much) and big tent revival.” That’s how Springsteen described his show to "60 Minutes" several years ago. Swift, along with her audience, simply needs to evolve. And that’s not a cheap shot at Swift. Quite the contrary. Going back to context and personal circumstance. If you’re in your 30s, 40s, 50s or thereabouts, Springsteen delivered and continues to deliver what you need. It’s become lore to call Bruce’s music the soundtrack of your life or to state that it got you through good times and bad. That’s absolutely the case for me. No other person, let alone artist, speaks to me the way Springsteen does. He’s as relevant to me today as he was when I was drinking sixteen-ounce bottles of Old Milwaukee daydreaming ways to exit Niagara Falls, New York. Bruce connects with many of us because he’s able to tap into our greatest fears and deepest emotions, relaying what we’re feeling and have felt at various stages of our lives with equal parts anger, bitterness, revival and redemption. That’s exactly what Swift does, particularly as part of her show. But she’s not doing it for the people a young Springsteen did it for or an “old” Springsteen does it for today. She’s doing it for a largely female audience comprised of teenagers and twenty somethings. When she talks about being a freshman in high school, falling in love, breaking up or the notion that no matter who you are or what you accomplish there’s always somebody “bullying” you, her words resonate with her audience as much any of Springsteen’s have with his. That’s only sacrilege to Springsteen fans unable or unwilling to step away from themselves and consider how another set relates to the experience of music. In fact, as a Springsteen fan, I’m happy to have let my territorial guard down and discovered ways that Swift’s lyrics bare meaning to my life and life experiences. Swift’s music is, for all intents and purposes, void of sociopolitical commentary. But she’s not writing for an audience with memories of the Vietnam War or one that really cares — on any meaningful level — about economic crises or presidential elections. If she attempted, at this stage of her career, to climb such lofty mountains, she would soapbox herself right into irrelevancy. There’s no question I’m outlining a debate — this Swift to Springsteen comparison — that doesn’t exist, at least not publicly. But there’s plenty of snark directed Swift’s way and not enough credit given for how truly unique, groundbreaking and in this for the long haul she is. However, a mutual admiration society, undoubtedly, exists between Swift and Springsteen. When you’re up there performing, you just pretend that Bruce Springsteen isn’t in the front row, but he is. That’s fantastic stuff. There’s something on my bucket list. When I turn into the big star Taylor Swift used to dream of being (insert smiley emoticon here), I want to have Swift and Springsteen on my show together. They’ll sing a rocking duet, then we’ll sit down for a half an hour and talk about how their two musical worlds collide, thrive off of one another and ultimately come full circle. —Written by Rocco Pendola in Santa Monica, Calif.
I Have Seen the Next Springsteen and Her Name is Taylor Swift
NEW YORK (TheStreet) — After chatting with TheStreet’s Carlton Wilkinson about the idea of this article, I thought long and hard about how to proceed.
Carlton knows a thing or two about music. He has a Ph.D. in it. But, before he has even stated his case and subsequently had the chance to defend himself, I charge Carlton with doing something many music lovers — casual and serious — do:
Misunderstanding, shortchanging and discounting the power, the glory, the magic and the ministry of Taylor Swift.
On Tuesday night at Staples Center in Los Angeles, Swift put on the 16th or 17th or maybe 20th best rock-n-roll show I have ever seen.
Yes, rock-n-roll and, yes, the 16th, 17th or 20th best I’ve ever seen.
That’s because I’m having difficulty determining how many Bruce Springsteen and The E Street Band shows I have been to. It’s between 15 and 20. And, without question, every single one of them did more for me than a Taylor Swift concert ever could. But, that’s me, an old guy from a provincial small city in Western New York who, as a teenager, used to drink beer under a viaduct on Hyde Park Boulevard in mid-December while pumping my fist to Springsteen’s “No Surrender.”
It’s all about context.
If you suspend personal circumstances, I’m not sure how you can watch Swift perform and not walk away claiming you have seen the modern-day iteration of Springsteen, the performer, the show(wo)man, the songwriter.
Consider this clip of Swift introducing and belting out her classic hit, “Mean,” from Monday’s set at Staples:
youtu.be/DGd_isGlJ4U
That has Springsteen, particularly a younger, more wordy Springsteen, written all over it. And I mean this as the highest form of compliment to both Springsteen and Swift.
Swift isn’t trying to be anything, but herself. That’s where she’s most like Bruce. In her ability to be authentic and original and, through what is clearly a very personal and mentally arduous process, connect with an audience of her peers. You cannot simply mimic a great who came before you and strut the fine balance of stage presence, sincerity and spectacle Swift brings night after night after night.
There’s a reason why music critics and serious popular culture doesn’t mention Swift’s name alongside Springsteen’s (and will likely chide me for doing so). Actually several reasons.
First, a reason or two I can get with.
I didn’t realize Swift was so “commercial.” She’s selling everything from Diet Coke to Keds to perfume at her shows. Legend has it that Bruce turned down millions from Chevy for the rights to “Born in the USA.” At the same time, the spectacle of Swift’s show (the costumes, the dancing, the pomp and circumstance) undermines her musical talents.
If she stripped everything down to bare bones — using the nondescript black and drab set The E Street Band uses — Swift would instantly trigger comparisons to Bruce’s hard-driving, no-nonsense, four-hour rock shows.
She could and, I believe, eventually will dedicate herself to the sweaty marathon sessions The Boss has become known for. She’ll drop much of the pizazz and bring the power.
The same elements that make Bruce’s show tick provide what will be the lasting foundation for a Taylor Swift performance — “part circus, dance party, political rally (maybe not so much) and big tent revival.” That’s how Springsteen described his show to "60 Minutes" several years ago.
Swift, along with her audience, simply needs to evolve.
And that’s not a cheap shot at Swift. Quite the contrary.
Going back to context and personal circumstance. If you’re in your 30s, 40s, 50s or thereabouts, Springsteen delivered and continues to deliver what you need. It’s become lore to call Bruce’s music the soundtrack of your life or to state that it got you through good times and bad. That’s absolutely the case for me. No other person, let alone artist, speaks to me the way Springsteen does. He’s as relevant to me today as he was when I was drinking sixteen-ounce bottles of Old Milwaukee daydreaming ways to exit Niagara Falls, New York.
Bruce connects with many of us because he’s able to tap into our greatest fears and deepest emotions, relaying what we’re feeling and have felt at various stages of our lives with equal parts anger, bitterness, revival and redemption. That’s exactly what Swift does, particularly as part of her show. But she’s not doing it for the people a young Springsteen did it for or an “old” Springsteen does it for today. She’s doing it for a largely female audience comprised of teenagers and twenty somethings.
When she talks about being a freshman in high school, falling in love, breaking up or the notion that no matter who you are or what you accomplish there’s always somebody “bullying” you, her words resonate with her audience as much any of Springsteen’s have with his. That’s only sacrilege to Springsteen fans unable or unwilling to step away from themselves and consider how another set relates to the experience of music. In fact, as a Springsteen fan, I’m happy to have let my territorial guard down and discovered ways that Swift’s lyrics bare meaning to my life and life experiences.
Swift’s music is, for all intents and purposes, void of sociopolitical commentary. But she’s not writing for an audience with memories of the Vietnam War or one that really cares — on any meaningful level — about economic crises or presidential elections. If she attempted, at this stage of her career, to climb such lofty mountains, she would soapbox herself right into irrelevancy.
There’s no question I’m outlining a debate — this Swift to Springsteen comparison — that doesn’t exist, at least not publicly. But there’s plenty of snark directed Swift’s way and not enough credit given for how truly unique, groundbreaking and in this for the long haul she is.
However, a mutual admiration society, undoubtedly, exists between Swift and Springsteen.
When you’re up there performing, you just pretend that Bruce Springsteen isn’t in the front row, but he is.
That’s fantastic stuff.
There’s something on my bucket list. When I turn into the big star Taylor Swift used to dream of being (insert smiley emoticon here), I want to have Swift and Springsteen on my show together. They’ll sing a rocking duet, then we’ll sit down for a half an hour and talk about how their two musical worlds collide, thrive off of one another and ultimately come full circle.
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Post by kora on Aug 22, 2013 15:33:59 GMT -5
nashviller - Just curious. Who wrote the above article? I like Springsteen's music. I have seen both Springsteen and Taylor in concert on TV but not live. I can't imagine Taylor being compared to him. Other than their gender, they are still so different.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2013 21:54:13 GMT -5
nashviller - Just curious. Who wrote the above article? I like Springsteen's music. I have seen both Springsteen and Taylor in concert on TV but not live. I can't imagine Taylor being compared to him. Other than their gender, they are still so different. Hi Kora...I can't remember who wrote this article...I just know that he is a lot smarter than me. I was a bit shocked that they would compare her to the Boss. It seems that all the classic rockers love her...which is cool. I am hoping that she doesn't forget who brought her to this dance...I think she willgive us a little more country music on the next album...she had better!  She is blowing the doors off of the Staples Center in L.A. I think what the seal is here is that her connection with her fans is the same connection that Bruces and Micks fans have with them. I listened to these artists when I was a youngin and still do. I am hoping and praying that country music returns to a more traditional sound...the rockers even want a stronger country sound from the genre. I have said before that Taylor has the ability to bring some young blood into the genre. If she could get these kids interested in country music we could have the potential to grow and play some real country. I am also wishing that the Country Music award shows would stop all the rapping and rocking...why not bring out some of the older folks like Merle Dolly Reba etc instead of Nelly and that genre. Are the rappers promoting Country Music...I think not. www.hififusion.com/video/taylorswift/cma2013/2/I hope that this link works for you...it kinda explains this movement.  |
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Post by kora on Aug 23, 2013 12:35:12 GMT -5
nashviller - Thanks for the link. It did work for me. Taylor is really popular and knows what she wants and what her fans want. She is riding on top now. When she first came out I thought she would hang onto the country label but expand to pop and rock, and her fans are following her.
As for country, today's fans don't want traditional, which they think is boring. They want noise, visuals and movement, which they get in pop/rock country. To me, unfortunately, most of the current country singers and their music are starting to sound the same, without the unique sound that sets them apart. Oh well, everything moves forward.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2013 22:01:35 GMT -5
nashviller - Thanks for the link. It did work for me. Taylor is really popular and knows what she wants and what her fans want. She is riding on top now. When she first came out I thought she would hang onto the country label but expand to pop and rock, and her fans are following her. As for country, today's fans don't want traditional, which they think is boring. They want noise, visuals and movement, which they get in pop/rock country. To me, unfortunately, most of the current country singers and their music are starting to sound the same, without the unique sound that sets them apart. Oh well, everything moves forward. Fortunatly there is an underground movement in Country Music that is playing the real deal. It is kinda sad when people like Gretchen and Jamey Johnson along with many other artists are reduced to playing the Casino circuit. People are getting tired of these party boys and girls catering to the college crowd. I am actually a bit disapointed with Taylor kinda forgetting us. I notice that Country Weekly never does real articles on her anymore enenthough her album (RED) has been near the top since it's release. Seems that we are going through a transitional phase that I hope does not last much longer. It used to be that Western music was a big part of the Genre. Bluegrass is making a big comeback...hopefully prople will remember the great music of your and bring it back to the forefront. Presonally I don't stay up all night drinking and going mudding. There is so much more to write about...living the woodsy and poor life...living and dying...crying in my beer. Not to be a downer but country music to me has always been about getting dirt on your hands and the down trodden. George Strait has never strayed too far from real life...other artists should follow suit. Though it is so true...no matter how hard we try to hang on...everything moves forward...it has to. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2013 20:50:22 GMT -5
Taylor just won the best female video at the VMA's...who would have thought that she would have won over 175 major awards at only 23 years old? I think the young lady has proven that she is here to stay. Unfortunatly she had to stray from country music to do it...I hope and pray when she is done with her experimentation in other genres that she will be welcome back home.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2013 6:28:25 GMT -5
Taylor Swift is turning up the glam! The 23-year-old singer dressed to the nines for the 2013 MTV Video Music Awards at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn, N.Y., on Sunday, Aug. 25.
The "All Too Well" singer looked nearly unrecognizable wearing a navy Herve Leger dress with Lorraine Schwartz earrings. She finished off the stunning look with Prada shoes, an Ofira ring and a Smythson of Bond Street clutch.
The attire even coordinated with BFF Selena Gomez, who was seated next to for the evening. The songstress and Gomez, 20, sat next to Thirty Seconds to Mars frontman Jared Leto and were seen dancing during Miley Cyrus and Robin Thicke's "Blurred Lines" performance.
The pop star is nominated for Video of the Year and Best Female Video for her hit song "I Knew You Were Trouble."
"I think winning anything would be ideal, I'll take anything," she revealed on the red carpet pre-show about possibly snagging a Moonman. "I am really proud of the Red Tour -- but I think it is about to kick into full gear."
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2013 20:07:08 GMT -5
If there are any lip readers here....what does it look like Taylor is saying here? "Sorry about my arm."
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